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Curious about some BT stats.  I'm 36 and have been paddling for about 12 years.  You? <NT> hardboater New

 

Dry Top Fitting WVkayaker New

dry top fit teepee New

<No Subject> Dr.Beer New

 

Stohlquist Caveman Ergo River Boot Feedback? Wondering about ordering a pair. Any users? <NT> nrjoel New

No direct experience but looks good and good price at Campmor DrSurf New

caveman kcin New

 

trade for boat.... htk911 New

Creek Boat Will_Dowling New

well htk911 New

 

Futaleafu questions... steff New

ideas bankfull1 New

the futa... matias New

<No Subject> newkid New

 

How does the USNWC  compare to the Nantahala? <NT> canoe90 New

wtf kind of question is that? could you be less specific? <NT> oopsiflipped New

he could have asked - How does the ditch in charlotte compare to ? donutboy New

wtf kind of response was that? could you be more of a jerk? Cree1976 New

a few differences.. tiskemanis New

My bad, I'm going to Charlotte and thinking bout takin the kayak. I should have asked how does the difficulty of the ... canoe90 New

<No Subject> edw New

I think this might help... leno New

The USNWC has little or no risk for foot entrapment.  The Nantahala has much cleaner water.  And on. <NT> rtoodit New

Don't forget that the Nantahala has a float-through pizza joint! <NT> Pinecricker New

feedback rellufs New

The nanty vs USNWC laddie New

USNWC is great!!!!!! megoindisco New

WTF is wrong with you ass wipes? cheapwhiskey New

You should go there, it will make you a much better boater. dwilli New

Reality BlackMountain New

Alternate reality... swampboy62 New

I learned to paddle at the USNWC cbkoontz New

usnwc tucker_deloach New

usnwc tucker_deloach New

A good place to progress past the Nanty. cbk1 New

go have fun that's what it's all about. FlailingProbe New

My first trip was two weeks ago cgrinds New

 

Jefe differences between generations? wavmax New

This came up the other day and here's a link to the thread... farmschooler New

Thanks for the link but am still wondering about jefe generation differences n/t <NT> wavmax New

The only difference is outfitting (old vs. Bad-ass).  The hulls are identical tcookson New

I paddle a standard Jefe at 195lbs <NT> mudpuppy New

you are on the high end for the standard and the low end for the grande FlailingProbe New

 

New River Gorge, gauge question dwilli New

USGS here..... mudpuppy New

Hmmmm (scratching his head)...That graph shows 2.58 dwilli New

More information mudpuppy New

Easy, he's Dan's father ReformSchooler New

Dan's Dad (aka UncleFuzzy, Chuck Brabec) unclefuzzy New

<No Subject> <NT> mudpuppy New

Rough estimate hydraulic New

I've always used a calculation that someone taught me years ago... GQ New

cfs is also on the rock unclefuzzy New

That formula still works. <NT> donutboy New

Boatingbeta has both the USGS flow at Thurmond in cfs and an estimate of the height at Fayette Station ReformSchooler New

Thanks. That was some good info. <NT> dwilli New

 

sizes of IR skirts seth65 New

IR sizing rloughne New

 

Striding?? GGreenboater New

well... jims New

 

Mango Jefe? mikesong New

Cool color, a little more yellow in it than the old orange. <NT> crankee New

 

Linville Gorge Break-ins!!! sinotam New

Word.., Hate to here. Thanks for the heads up <NT> Dave_ New

Sorry to hear that, FluidDruid New

Thwarting Breakins? BlazeOn New

SET-UP !  then- when captuerd, = 1'st-descent @ linville falls ! (I'll donate-boat!) <NT> carnage-boater New

contact Burke County Sheriffs wilsonswimteam New

I did.... sinotam New

Have a bit of comfort knowing that what goes around comes around. They're probably suffering from... ptrushto New

There probably isn't a parking place up there that doesn't have some window glass on the ground there... rtoodit New

Coulda been worse too, remember a few years ago when the crack head rtoodit New

 

Chattanooga versus Knoxville jimmoon New

one's closer to Louie... <NT> Philcanoe New

is that a + or a - ? <NT> mtnsport New

Chattanooga has alot more close to the city, but knoxville can hit anything/everything in the southeast in 2.5 hours. granolapaddler New

How does Asheville compare to Chatt and Knox? <NT> jimmoon New

Asheville better for guarenteed creeking, chattanooga better for guarenteed playboating, Knoxville centrally located. <NT> granolapaddler New

As a knoxvillian who has recently moved to Chatty and who went to school in Sewanee.. HortonVM New

Knoxville overall much better bankfull1 New

Um, tomato/tomahto.... crankee New

Sorry, OT from original post.. crankee New

I agree bankfull1 New

Knoxville is a way cooler town than Chatty <NT> HortonVM New

and if you hunt any, your safety jacket does double duty as team colors come Saturday <NT> mtnsport New

Chatt is an outdoor friendly city, great downtown events, minor league baseball.. ocoeerat21 New

I think that certain Knoxville boaters have little man syndrome. just sayin.... <NT> waterfrk09 New

Knoxville's in the middle of everything...period. <NT> slimerboy New

just get a map and mark all the giant porno and fireworks outlets within an hour of knoxville on it oopsiflipped New

and it was the host of the most excellent '82 World's Fair mtnsport New

Chattanooga has the more waterfalls in proximity... many waiting to be 1st D'ed. <NT> paddler511 New

which town has best music scene for working musicians? riverbone New

Chatt Town TNPADDLER22 New

But Rodeo is dead! <NT> slimerboy New

Knoxville.   BLUEEZ New

Chatty sucks nothing to see here ...move along ...head North... <NT> ditchbitch New

I don't know why people make such a fuss over Asheville.  Knoxville wins hands down. <NT> mtnsport New

Your right... crankee New

Yep.. Milhouse New

Chattanooga is too rain dependant ralf New

And there are larger rivers near Knoxville that run almost all the time. slimerboy New

 

It's a new dawn for the boatingbeta Green page . . . ReformSchooler New

A HUGE Thanks for all you do! yespe1 New

Chris...as usual you are the man!...and thanks for giving to the boating community! <NT> ditchbitch New

Thanks Chris. <NT> crankee New

<No Subject> <NT> FluidDruid New

Thank you! <NT> acecoach New

No, thank YOU! <NT> riverbone New

Does this mean I no longer have to plan my entire life around your silly vacation schedule? <NT> farmschooler New

Thanks a ton Chris, and thanks to Mr. Pilson and Mr. Lewis for their dedication for the past 4.75 years.... tiskemanis New

...truly, I deserve nothing on this one, it was a couple weekends here and there for me, so i'm a joker, but Lewis maybe farmschooler New

Thanks Chris! Boatingbeta is a truly amazing asset for all of us... nathans213 New

Thanks for the love . . . ReformSchooler New

i always wondered if you guys did it manually. <NT> FlailingProbe New

 

1st ever Kayaking Video Guide - opinion needed LRF New

just a thought ....what's your target market?? jonas_24112 New

oh, production was great....but how bout a little less fluff and more lines? <NT> jonas_24112 New

<No Subject> LRF New

Not bad, what is the camera that is used for the non-headcam in water action? <NT> cheapwhiskey New

not the first ever <NT> rasc New

I think it's outstanding. DangerJudy New

what is the deal with the Tyler Curtis kickflip in the middle of the zeta section DangerJudy New

Great concept, but... SRsteelheader New

There's a III/IV section of the Fu.  I didn't know it had one until I watched the video... <NT> DangerJudy New

boaters level... LRF New

I'm waiting for the Wisconsin video!! scottp47 New

Because that is a shitty way to learn to read water? jkodadek New

yeah, don't try to learn... just figure it out paddlingphool New

yeah ok, that was a little harsh jkodadek New

agreed paddlingphool New

Jees, Dont remind me! scottp47 New

Most Excellent!! More importantly, it makes me want to go there! I think I can handle the Bridge to Bridge Section.... rbowman New

 

Shipping a kayak sazam5 New

Forward Air dragorossinw New

Unless there's no terminal near you... rockcreeker New

I used freightquote.com scottp47 New

 

More footy from the lower Clullasaja Saturday mrkayakman04 New

*Cullasaja* <NT> mrkayakman04 New

what was the level in the vid? <NT> bankfull1 New

It came up to about 4.5 while we were out there, maybe a tad lower in a few clips mrkayakman04 New

Nice!  Good boaters.  Some grace under pressure stuff there.(NT)   <NT> loafr New

That was a really fun day. <NT> bikenrun New

indeed, that was a good day, i just wish... alexkayaks23 New

 

Speaking of face protection.......... Will_Carry New

Awesome! thanks for sharing....30 seconds i'll never get back. <NT> goobster New

Welcome to Boater Talk! <NT> Will_Carry New

 

WRSI Face Protection northfork357 New

No problems over here... Seems pretty solid <NT> laddie New

I use the ShredReady full face and love it, snacker55 New

The shred will not fit a big ol noggin. <NT> donutboy New

Big Heads shredder New

"Like an orange on a toothpick" <NT> Dan New

Better than a pumpkin on a toothpick shredder New

Second That austinW New

 

Where is a good place in NC to practice hole escape techniques? Not too sticky, but sticky enough to make it a challenge <NT> SRsteelheader New

try the top hole at nantahala falls <NT> clay54 New

Go right at top of lesser and plug in for some mild--medium retention .., Dave_ New

I hate to say this, but... natural-thing New

Shutdown is not deep at all, but it is a great practice hole <NT> sunchopper New

Front of the hole is pretty shallow.... backbonz New

The devil's dip in Downtown Bryson City armenchuck New

USNWC kayakook New

Frank Bell's might do it at the right level. 2000cfs or so. Will_Carry New

Where is Frank Bell's hole?   WildwaterSteve New

Nevermind - thought you were talking about a hole on the New <NT> WildwaterSteve New

Frank Bell's on the French Broad. Nasty hole with a deep water exit. <NT> Will_Carry New

This hole here would be the one...flushes you but takes you DEEP... rtoodit New

Drop into Bump hole sideways.  Prepare to stay there. <NT> nixon_boatertalk New

Drop into Bump hole sideways.  Prepare to stay there. nixon_boatertalk New

The Bump actually deadly riverbone New

Wanda's on the Upper Green <NT> Unabonger New

isnt there a tree in there right now?? <NT> backbonz New

Nolichucky, Wilson Creek and the Dirty Bird yakdaddy New

'Little Woodall"  @  Wilson @ +9"  =  perspective-change ... carnage-boater New

Ocoee: Humungous, Roach Motel, Double Suck <NT> snorkleman New

Bottom hole in Broken Nose also isn`t too bad(you can actually stand up and walk out, if you have to).... rbowman New

 

Bliss Stick dealer in SE? adrianne New

Check www.wakawai.com in Asheville Gavin_Rains New

Without a doubt... Id go to Wakawai, Mike is a great guy <NT> laddie New

Chip Rouse in Clemson, SC: 864-247-2527. analogkid70 New

 

Big dam slide video jiggydawg New

hahaha holy crap. <NT> bikenrun New

Wow! Any guess at terminal velocity---that is, speed at the end of the slide? energywonk New

Talk about getting up a little speed to punch the hole!!! <NT> rtoodit New

No sh#$%t---I think we have a new paddle stroke/skill---the "hyper-boof"? Or "space-boof?" (launch into outer space?) energywonk New

Average speed as high as 40 mph. scagrotto New

What a rush! That hole looked terminal. Very high pucker factor. <NT> Will_Carry New

The rare triple post!! <NT> Bradley New

"...put themselves and others at unnecessary risk," said a Welsh Water spokesman.  "Others" who? Dan New

Possible rescuers should anything go wrong?---always gotta consider "worst case" scenarios energywonk New

Rescue squads if they have to haul someone out of there. Bradley New

This, from an island where they used to impale people or put them in cages to die and rot !   ezwater New

 

Norway Guided paddling trips OC1er New

Was this it? Norway Daze? energywonk New

Check here ... BKC New

Thanks for the info, that's the one! <NT> OC1er New

<No Subject> newkid New

 

Is a full face helmet necessary?? rellufs New

is a rubber really necessary??  You can take the chance or not.... <NT> jonas_24112 New

It just seems to me that everyone "preaches" full face, but no one actually wears them. rellufs New

but it was -9 on a run that's barely class 4 when it does have water in it. FlailingProbe New

Wait....so now Wilson Creek is only class III with water? backbonz New

My take.... Milhouse New

Doesnt impede vison... backbonz New

1 in 4 people has an STD... yespe1 New

It's a personal choice curtis_elwood New

Yup TheBroncoKid New

look at it this way it's a lot cheaper than dental surgery even with your co-pay FlailingProbe New

Emergency room will set you back $1,000 to $2,500. hkacpa New

The way I see it... laddie New

I would not want anyone to see me wearing a full face unless it was a class 5.3 nightmare. Will_Carry New

apples and oranges brother... laddie New

I'd like to get pulled by a cop and be wearing a full face helmet...I bet he'd taze me. <NT> Will_Carry New

You'd like that, wouldn't you? <NT> HabitatMapper New

Generally speaking... the po po don't like it when we drive around in our cars wearing full face helmets... Dale New

Right. If  you are NOT paddling way beyond your skills,  you probably don't davegg New

really like the last sentence <NT> abbeysway New

not necessarily. Skully New

Post your picture, and we'll tell you. <NT> ezwater New

Nice. <NT> Dan New

FNA all the way dekizzle New

Who wants to be the 1 % that blow out their teeth or scar their face,  think about it. <NT> hkacpa New

If 1 out of 100 paddlers ruined their faces... it would be an ugly sport. Will_Carry New

But why chance it? cbkoontz New

I'm not saying NOT to wear full face helmets. Will_Carry New

When I first started wearing a helmet skiing, sometimes people made fun of me jkodadek New

Some pro boaters think they look gay YubaBlue New

HAHA mikesong New

What Tao had to say... curtis_elwood New

<No Subject> marker New

ouch...but come one lets hear the story! <NT> clay54 New

Not me... marker New

It's not necessary... until you need it. RodeoClown New

Same here Zeronine New

My full face saved me getsgarth New

I bet in 5 to 10 years, everyone will wear a full face helmet. Bradley New

<No Subject> <NT> mtnsport New

FNA is........ boaterm New

I'll take $1000.00 dollars of that bet, you wear glasses on the river? What a goob. <NT> Louie New

takes one to know one <NT> mtnsport New

Well I hardly ever swim but in 38 years of whitewater boatin I've never needed one. <NT> Louie New

You're a DOB for chrissakes. Most of you guys are assholes and elbows... whitetrash New

Your 37th post?  Time to try for clear expression. <NT> ezwater New

Knocked out my teeth at teva mountain games two years ago KelseyThompson New

 

For Sale: Slightly used earplugs, $1 ea. String is broken. <NT> oopsiflipped New

Dear Seller, slimerboy New

Is there any earwax residue? Turtle81 New

EARSWAP! <NT> Tallman New

<No Subject> <NT> FluidDruid New

Tie the string through your skull, and you'll never be without them. <NT> ezwater New

Give us a name brand and we'll call this post a shameless 'plug'. Dave_ New

 

Looking for 1-2 used Dagger RPM's agerber New

One in the SE. Shrimpboat New

Raleigh Durham Craigslist has 1 donutboy New

Try looking on GEAR SWAP!!!! <NT> SaultyDog New

No joke; there's a couple of overpriced RPMs there. Why RPM? There's better boats out there for any kind of paddling. Dan New

Like What? agerber New

Like an X or an EZG...  funny... I just happen to have one of each for sale. <NT> Dale New

i will sell you the best boat ever made for a mere 500$ FlailingProbe New

FP , thats just mean <NT> kindyakker New

like about any general river running/playboat peterj New

Excellent advice. I would recommend you repost this tomorrow morning and ask people for boat advice. Dan New

Gear Swap agerber New

place to buy and sell gear here mtnsport New

I have a Redline in very good condition... snorkleman New

Price and Pics agerber New

most Redlines are in perfect condition <NT> kindyakker New

I have a red and white RPM for sale rbrugger New

 

Ecuador 2008 Update:  Rio Jondachi and more. Schwabie New

You called me Jason....but it is meeeee! Zoolander New

Wow, no offense, but.... oopsiflipped New

San Juan Island is a haul to whitewater (A ferry + drive time) donutboy New

Yeah, moving to hood river or bellingham would be way harder oopsiflipped New

I've heard that Hood River was washed away in a lava flow this fall. <NT> donutboy New

True! The entire gorge is plugged up now. <NT> Alkasazi New

is Jesse surviving without his white wine?!? jkodadek New

ha.....ha.....ha.......I have switched to red! <NT> Zoolander New

either way, you're still a winer! <NT> Alkasazi New

schwabbbbyyy! nathans213 New

<No Subject> J-Fizzle New

 

Any suggestions for a late winter trip? canoe90 New

If you're going cheap, give up on warm  and just paddle around the southeast...more... granolapaddler New

do you know all the rivers in that? i didnt recognize some of those drops, looked fun <NT> clay54 New

if you aren't looking for whitewater yakmom New

about the keys yakmom New

Paddle the Springs of Florida, water temps in the 70s, mostly state parks near by. Take some snorkeling gear.... rbowman New

What about the Obed system? Will_Carry New

 

Don't forget the Ohiopyle Falls Public Meeting, this Saturday Rattso_del_Flatulato New

long boat LY run before, skiing after. local ski resorts should be open <NT> rloughne New

SPEEDERS  are coming out!! WesternMD New

 

Costa Rica Vid paddler511 New

taste it <NT> rasc New

 

South American Outfitters? steff New

ecuador roscoepwavetrain New

ecuador - small world. chile - kayak pucon! <NT> rloughne New