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note Should little kids be paddling Class V? New

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Date: Apr 07 2008, 18:33 GMT
From: HarrisonMetzger

I was browsing through some of the crazy shit being paddled on the AW page and saw photos of a little kid running an obviously Class V drop on Henderson Creek. At Ain'tLouieFest I saw an 11-year-old girl run Baby Falls. But  that was at low water with her parents there and tons of safety. I wonder about letting a 9-year-old run Class V

At that  age it is really the parent's responsibility to determine what risks a child should take. I am not trying to criticize anyone else's choice but to raise what is obviously going to become a more common question as more and more children take up paddling. So much depends on the individual kid's personality, skill and fitness. But is there an age before which a kid should not be running the heinous?

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note well with the one I seen they won't do it till they are ready, but that up to us, unless we are the parent, it kinda Louie New
note Right...I'm asking how parents feel about allowing their kids on hard, dangerous ww <NT> HarrisonMetzger New
smile What is class V??  Baby Falls at low water? miltymann New
note Yep - about skill not age. RiverChique New
note Miscommunication on my part...I wasn't saying Baby Falls is a V. It's a IV. HarrisonMetzger New
smile No worries and for the record, little girls been leading the way down that rapid for some time: miltymann New
note have to be high water to be a IV, very high <NT> Louie New
smile It's the tallest class III in all the SE and Short Creek Falls is the tallest class II <NT> TheBroncoKid New
note on kids and pregnant women paddling III/V, my opinions are unpopular. BLUEEZ New
sad I had a friend loose a baby when she took a look cold swim. <NT> davegg New
th_up I agree with you on all counts abbeysway New
note 19 yr old female running big boy LL_lilA New
smile I had the same take on things at 19 too.   BLUEEZ New
note I take exception...you can run a rapid blind more than once, just close your eyes mtnsport New
smile MARK STOVER! BLUEEZ New
smile thanks mtnsport New
note Congrats Mark! yakdaddy New
note beg to differ G New
note like I said originally, my opinions are unpopular.  I'm ok if you disagree.  I still feel the same. <NT> BLUEEZ New
note well alright then, many people were running blind... mtnsport New
smile May the Force be with you my young Padawan.  ;-)  Now close those eyes and Boof, mister. miltymann New
smile Congratulations Mark on your big news HarrisonMetzger New
smile Thanks Harrison & Stuart, yep it's the first, so I'm getting ready to get turned upside down mtnsport New
smile You have bombproof roll, so you will be upright in no time, right? <NT> HarrisonMetzger New
th_up Absolutely! <NT> mtnsport New
note I am a parent of a 14 yo boy with a lifelong disability Learning_to_Swim New
note You are damn straight about that! JediMaster New
note My wife paddled some stuff while early in pregnancy willdabeast New
smile Word is there is a 10 yr old here running the lower 5 of the NF Payette... EricS New
question What about using your 10 yr. old kid to sell boats? abbeysway New
feedback Here is my $0.02.  I've had my daughter paddling as long as she can remember.  She's 14 and can paddle class IV and has smitho New
note I was with you all the way Terry until the last line HarrisonMetzger New
smile I'm not a lawyer either but it just sounded like something an over zealous prosecuting lawyer would do. <NT> smitho New
note Your child paddling class IV is at equal risk as another child paddling class V thehead New
note I disagree...I led Terry's daughter down some of her biggest rapids ever... bigsurfwaves New
smile The lawyer thing might have been over the top but there is a huge difference in class III and class V. And no matter how smitho New
note I didn't say there wasn't a difference in the two it was to point out different perspectives thehead New
note It's really none of my business what class of whitewater parents let their children paddle.  But some of these class V smitho New
note I think there are many kids capable at paddling at that level t_h_o_m_a_s New
note brief addition ClayW New
more When I was talking speed, t_h_o_m_a_s New
note Depends on the kid and the family ClayW New
th_up Well put Clay.  Thanks. <NT> miltymann New
disagree I figured you'd say that when I saw your name. <NT> BLUEEZ New
note I think the issue for me is more "parental responsiblility" BLUEEZ New
th_up "own blood" he doesn't have <NT> abbeysway New
note and Depends on your comfort zone ClayW New
note I see where you're coming from, but death is death regardless of being comfortable or geeked out scared. BLUEEZ New
note How many parents lose their kids to thing that they wouldn't suspect fahimaz7 New
disagree You should definitely quit paddling jkodadek New
note no.... fahimaz7 New
question so are you insinuating a parent should teach their kid to weave in & out of traffic? mtnsport New
note absolutely not fahimaz7 New
smile Quick Clay... plug that cord back inta' yer neck!!!!! decker New
feedback There is a reason they don't let kids drive before 16.  They aren't capable of making good decisions.  After all we all smitho New
note <No Subject> lifeofloon New
note I think many kids are capable of making good decisions BMan1 New
note Yes, but we as parents bear ultimate responsibility for our minor children HarrisonMetzger New
th_up Well, on that we agree BMan1 New
note You think? fahimaz7 New
note actually abbeysway New
note 1 incident with a rock... and in that time about 80 people killed in backcountry avalanches in the US. <NT> fahimaz7 New
more It is up to the parents to be parents HarrisonMetzger New
note TOTALLY!! My dad had me shooting high powered rifles before age ten, but he thinks kayaking class 2 is unsafe! bigsurfwaves New
smile I was allowed.... hardboater New
note I never have understood abbeysway New
doh Maybe they won't stop lawn mower blades but whitetrash New
note kids and class V firescape New
note I think that since they're not my kids - I don't even have kids - I don't have a right to tell anyone else how to GRITS New
th_up <No Subject> <NT> ClayW New
feedback It is all dependant on the family and the child...... aqua_chic28 New
note Any kids been hurt? curtis_elwood New
note At 5 yr. old, I almost fell from a 40 ft water tower, when my parents thought I was playing with a kid down the block... rbowman New
feedback If capable, yes (within limits) and here's why BMan1 New
note Absolutely NOT!  You let an 11 years old paddle Gnar and Will_Carry New
note I say NO because... penny New
note Really NOT an Issue of age. riverpig New
disagree I beg to disagree HarrisonMetzger New
question Are you a parent? b6 New
angry I'm a parent. My kids stay home playing video games where they belong. Will_Carry New
note Yes I am HarrisonMetzger New
note List the fatalities then fahimaz7 New
feedback The point is not to have any to list, if possible. HarrisonMetzger New
note What bothers me is fahimaz7 New
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