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full face helmets boofles New

why did you change your login name? <NT> DangerJudy New

can't remember my password boofles New

Any one that fits and protects you well and that is within your budget.... Wilko New

 

FIVE <NT> davegg New

 

Has anyone every refused to give a fellow paddler a ride back to the top? Will_Carry New

I've seen some who throw their boat on a vehicle to the put in snacker55 New

 

Liquid Logic Remix 59 vs 69 help please boofles New

59 vs 69 shanebenedict New

front surfing boofles New

 

Dagger RX 6.7 vs. LL CR 125? budyaker New

 

bliss-stick smoothy MCskid New

 

2008 Nolichucky River Cleanup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! doublez72 New

 

Whitewater disaster in Slovenia - 8 dead Paddleman New

Well, they really were canoes, but the U.K. calls them "kayaks" Paddleman New

Sad story, regardless.   <NT> FluidDruid New

What a nightmare scenario... axr6 New

Utterly horrible, I had the same thought. Very sad story. <NT> GRITS New

They were big open canoes. Seven people each, no PFD's... Looks like there are now 13 dead. Link to clip inside. Wilko New

Wow. Is the largest Darwin Group Award ever? <NT> Carnage_Asada New

Bad form, man. People died. What if it were your family? GRITS New

yeah, I know something about personal flotation.....come on.... Carnage_Asada New

This had nothing to do with activism.... It was a celebration of the last possible trip on the river. Wilko New

Many many lives could be saved each year if the basic safety rules of various outdoor sports were taught in gradeschool <NT> PHILZZZ New

 

Where to boat this Sat/Sun? Cadderly New

 

1st time on lower yough, friend busted mouth on cucumber rapid pinggolf91 New

Don't Sell Yet playboater2001 New

agree SwimmerBill New

full face helmet pinggolf91 New

face guard SwimmerBill New

Cascade full face and ear with mask 59$+ at NOC catchaneddy New

Please enlighten me: what exactly about a full face helmet makes someone look gay? <NT> Wilko New

I always wear mine, even on flatwater. When I wear a helmet, I want to have good all around protection. Wilko New

agree! SwimmerBill New

 

yet another "creekboat advice requested" post snorkleman New

Eskimo Salto lands very softly curtis_elwood New

The old model has basically the same bow as the new one. It's mainly the deck which has changed. Wilko New

Advice... axr6 New

 

I realize the Saluda river near Columbia, SC is low, but how would it be to take a beginner down? <NT> ybnrml New

depends where you start... blokhead New

I've actually never been down it, but i checked AW and it seems very easy, all class II mostly <NT> ybnrml New

 

i need a lift from denver airport to crested butte... any takers? moisturemaker New

 

Free Happy Feet and Inflatable seat cover cubanpaddler New

 

Ever wonder how to boof? wwinstruction New

Very Sweet. Great Job. Thanks. <NT> pinkH2o New

Nice....got some good points from it. snacker55 New

If you do it backwards it's call a Foob. <NT> Will_Carry New

"foob" thats a new one 4 me. like it <NT> golder New

not to be confused with... tiskemanis New

Very well done. Thanks for posting. <NT> axr6 New

The boofing article was great, but the accuracy article was better. GRITS New

 

Anyone feel like we're at least gettin a reacharound on Chattooga? Athensboater New

in a word, "NO". tcookson New

That's not my attitude Athensboater New

That is EXACTLY your attitude! mOjo New

Sorry I don't fit into your elite group Athensboater New

No group here Bucky - I'm GDI mOjo New

Actually abbeysway New

WORD - TRUE DAT SHIT!!! My guess is that Athensboater is a TUrd. <NT> mOjo New

I can agree, but I'm interested to see who stands by their convictions Athensboater New

I'll paddle whether or not there's a partial, full or no ban on boaters <NT> mOjo New

Then why are we having this conversation Athensboater New

Wrong abbeysway New

well, 1965, sorry dyslexic at times <NT> abbeysway New

I try not to insult anyone who could one day be holding a throw rope as I wash by. <NT> Will_Carry New

<No Subject> <NT> mtnsport New

<No Subject> snorkleman New

I say we ALL head up there. Every damn one uf us, and just put on.... panicfan New

Dude, have you ever been tazered and maced? <NT> Will_Carry New

If we ALL went, they'd eventually run out of bullets & batteries... Tallman New

Wouldn't that make a GREAT headline for the cause - "Peaceful Protesting Kayakers Tazed Riverside"... swampboy62 New

Tazered AND maced? No, not at the same time. <NT> panicfan New

Fire up the attorneys.  The next discussion should be in front of a Federal judge. FluidDruid New

nah abbeysway New

 

World Class Kayak Academy still has room on it's Skookumchuck trip! Karlmoserh2o New

 

Ocoeephotos.com got pictures of our rope rescue above Double Trouble during............... Terrell New

I got the page number wrong: Terrell New

Was this an actual rescue or a training exercise. If actual rescue, what happened? <NT> Ed_E.Hopper New

Real rescue.  Student swam pretty good ways above Double Trouble and he got to the rocks in the middle up above DT.  ... Terrell New

threadjack in 3....2....1.... panicfan New

A vector pull is when you have someone pull the rope at a mid-point...................... Terrell New

 

For a flatwater booze paddle, whats the best pfd to slide a beer down the front so you can drink & paddle? <NT> Bradley New

Well in an open boat you use a beer can size hole saw to drill a recess in your foam bulhead, keeps the beer cold, I Louie New

I guess in a kayak you could drill them under the seat and let the beers hang down in the water, you could reach around Louie New

ya see you drill five holes and buy a six pack...put five in holes, start drinkin # 6, when MT, replace # 5 with #6 and Louie New

I say one of those helmets with the beer holders and drinking tube Flanman2 New

Real Answer:  Astral Aquavest 300. Gabriel New

Real Answer? You think my canoe doesn't have six holes drill in it? <NT> Louie New

Real Manswer? You think my butt-boat don't got ya beat? mOjo New

Astral Aquavest 300 + Miller Lite plastic bottles cbkoontz New

another vote for the Aquavest 300. <NT> tiskemanis New

Astral works well.  I always wanted a skirt with a built-in coozie, though. curtis_elwood New

 

necky witch oldbob New

 

necky witch oldbob New

 

New post with pics and video from our June Colorado trip are now up... granolapaddler New

nice stuff adam! <NT> russellfork New

Those are some cool pics! <NT> stomper New

Loved the video, folks out west don't know how good they have it Snakenjahbone New

they sure do have it good... granolapaddler New

 

Sean some good pictures of skinny blond chick at Ocoeephotos.com June, 29 page 14. <NT> Louie New

 

Does anyone know where I can get/buy those nice 1/4"-1/2" thick foam squares... tiskemanis New

kayakoutfitting.com   link inside Enzo New

 

Big Guy whitewater8 New

His choices are going to be limited.  The Pyranha Everest and Dagger Green Boat are the first two that come to mind. analogkid70 New

green boat is not for big guys... Jayrockin New

Green boat worked great for my 240 lbs. Bradley New

Second that Recurve New

Jackson SuperFun sounds like what he is looking for Foley New

good advice, but isn't Ginny a daughter (or maybe it is a guy's name in KY)? <NT> peterj New

I got one used only five times up for sale on gear swap shutterbug New

sorry, supposed to be under superfun response above <NT> shutterbug New

Jackson super fun or dagger mamba 8.5 Bradley New

he's a lumber jack and he's okay. <NT> davegg New

DragoRossi Critical Mass <NT> ScottBarnes New

more inside ScottBarnes New

Large Fluid Flirt is bigger than SuperFun, for riverrunning playboats. <NT> brzrkr26 New

Has he thought about a canoe? Used to know a guy in AL who had to weigh over 350 GRITS New

 

Looking for folks to paddle the Upper Yough with this weekend. Milhouse New

we'll be up there. you should come hit the falls too. VA lines are in - <NT> r.moore New

 

<NT> tiskemanis New

 

Restricting Boaters on the Headwaters - a thought rangerrob New

I think it's pretty clear why they decided what they did. curtis_elwood New

I wonder if there's any way AW could challenge that strategy in and of itself GRITS New

my thoughts abbeysway New

so how do we have to wait for the AW to tell us what we think before we can comment to the FS? <NT> Louie New

I messed up and have already commented. <NT> Louie New

link? decker New

didn't you get CC on it? <NT> Louie New

Make your comments abbeysway New

You fight how suits you best, and I'll do the same. No matter how it goes in court where your best chance lies, just   Louie New

Hell Louie, I plan on going and sticking my son's Snoopy fishing pole in the boat with my new fishing lics. ditchbitch New

My Sponge Bob Fishing pole has caught many bass on Clear Creek! <NT> duckypaddler New

Hey Louie abbeysway New

Good point, Rob! <NT> RiverChique New

If you're going to get arrested, let it be for paddling! Who's with me? Will_Carry New

What makes you thing there will be a lawsuit? Pinecricker New

 

Great deals on Diesels at Diamond Brand, playboats too! crankee New

great deal on the diesels eh? 10% off playboats <NT> nathans213 New

 

Gorge Games Is Back!!! samdrevo New

 

Buying a used kayak - what to get? andrewc New

Blaze r.d.mcdaniel New

strongly agree! SwimmerBill New

Another thumbs up for the Blaze! aqualerouge New

Brother... evojac New

Do not get... evojac New

Prices... andrewc New

of these, ... SwimmerBill New

I started out with a wavesport X padgett New

 

Potential Industry Changing Events Unfolding in WV unclefuzzy New

So WV is going to kill off the ONLY green industry & one of the largest economic impacts in the state. tcookson New

The impact could be more widespread than WV unclefuzzy New

Totally agree there, but its a WV case & a WV judge who allowed the ruling. tcookson New

Green industry? (warning--partial thread jack) LuvLu New

Well, relative to coal mining, yeah. tcookson New

re: green? -- Moreover, most of the rafting companies seem to have the ... davegg New

Rafting is definitely a green industry snowwrestler New

Industry vs activity LuvLu New

I think if rafting can't be considered a "green" industry, I don't know what would qualify snowwrestler New

People abbeysway New

Maritime Law? On rivers? What's next, bath tubs too? <NT> brzrkr26 New

Maritime law covers river and you didn't know it?  Think of all the large rivers mudpuppy New

Application of Maritime Law jon514d New

It may be a bad idea to consider them unnavigable. <NT> duckypaddler New

navigability is based on being able to float a log down it in some places... tonyvarvoutis New

This would almost have to get thrown out in a higher court, right? RUwet New

Sht!  I guess the state supreme ct. would be the highest one they could go to, wouldn't it? RUwet New

Sounds like a media play... monkeywrencher New

us supreme ct has bigger fish to fry cdd New

Maritme law ought to only apply if rafting on the coast of WV. tcookson New

Waivers have little bearing in a wrongfull death suit.   If there is any type of neglect mudpuppy New

agreed jims New

Steptoe is a longtime local judge wv1 New

negligence waivers vary by state SwimmerBill New

Baed on my limited understanding maritime law would benefit the raft company... monkeywrencher New

What actually happened on the raft trip for this to happen??? <NT> dfinney New

I'm fairly certain.. evojac New

The original trip was on high water wv1 New

the last ten commericial rafting deaths have been "heart attacks" DonVitoCorleone New

The last ten commercial rafting deaths now appear to have been death by turbine... Wilko New

Not HIGH water (legally defined) condo New

I don't want to judge them, the article says otherwise though DonVitoCorleone New

The 4 other area outfitters wisely stayed off the river that day. wv1 New

Potential fall out could be that of which happened to ski resorts.... tennpaddler New

likely end result of case DonVitoCorleone New

what about when raft guides intentionally hit hydraulics to flip the raft? decker New

No say it ain't so, well all of mine were acidents your hornor. <NT> Louie New

Well, fewer rafts for us to dodge Stifler New

floatin undercuts develope your skills, feeds ya, and gives ya breedin opertuinties. <NT> Louie New

bad facts lead to bad law... cdd New

Sounds like the company is getting what it deserves. <NT> kirbyboater New

 

Savage River Release on Sunday, July 6 ccwalbridge New

 

Savage River Release on Sunday, July 6 ccwalbridge New

 

Anybody paddling in the Asheville area tomorrow? sunchopper New

 

Wave Surfing is Around the Corner ckirby New

which corner is that? <NT> davegg New

 

Can anyone name this kayak SenorPepe New

I looked like a Perception logo on the white boat. Overflow? <NT> Will_Carry New

Don't think it has enough rocker to be an Overslow - looks a smidge longer too <NT> mOjo New

Tough one, maybe a Pyranha Roto Bat?? Not sure. <NT> crankee New

It ain't an overflow,or a vortex. Those days were a blur. but it looks cool. <NT> Will_Carry New

I'd go with RotoBat. Bradley New

<No Subject> newkid New

They are Europeans and citicokid New

I'd say a Euro Kayak Cyphur, and the helmets are Roemers... jackofnone32 New

too much volume and not a pointy enough bow to be a cyphur. Leland New

Don't know about the boats or helmets, but I like the music! Anyone know who it is? <NT> panicfan New

I don't know the song but... SenorPepe New

Good idea. Thanks. <NT> panicfan New

Pyranha CK 280? Since they're UK boaters paddling in Wales, that seems a pretty likely choice in 1995 Wilko New

too long Leland New

You think that it was a creek bat, Leland? I thought that had more volume than the boat we saw in the clip. <NT> Wilko New

now that I've been able to get a better connection and see more than 10 sec of the video... Leland New

It's not an old Prijon. It could be a Lettmann, but they usually were not as rounded. Wilko New

The guy who posted the clip just replied on Youtube: it's a Pyranha Rotobat! <NT> Wilko New

 

Couple of ?'s about Fluid Spice pinggolf91 New

Nobody has paddled that but except the bronkokid.  He loves it though. <NT> arrmike New

The way he talks, him and his spice probably have some baby spice's bouncing around. AaronK New

spice is nice chris71 New

Seeing how you weigh 155, It's my opinion that the Large Spice would be way too big for you TheBroncoKid New

Hey, if you don't buy that boat, you mind sending the seller info to me? BaldHeadedJohn New

to big? pinggolf91 New

yes to big I think lennart New

 

How many Chattoga boaters have applied pressure on the Stekoa creek situation? ondarocks New

How many TU members have tried to stop stocking of non-native species in the headwaters?? rangerrob New

<No Subject> <NT> FluidDruid New

I propose that TU members focus on fishin' the non-native, finless corn eyed brown trout out of Stinkola. <NT> mOjo New

I attended the NPDES meeting as a representative of AW ga_creeker New

Good, glad to hear it. ondarocks New

B/c you can't make any headway with the 'good ol boy' system in place selmaraid New

I have canoeman New

It's not about who is more ecological, it always been pure discrimination <NT> mudpuppy New

What's a hippi crit? <NT> Snakenjahbone New

a short bike race involving dread locked patchoui wearing riders <NT> mtnsport New

LOL!!! <NT> Lizabeth New

I have <NT> Paddleman New

I have abbeysway New

How come when it sumthin good it is Kayakers, when it sumthin bad it is boaters <NT> Louie New

I think you are pretty much the reason for that! <NT> duckypaddler New

 

New Tao Berman Book Released Zoolander New

I didn't know he was with Pam Withers. How awesome is that?! donutboy New

Corran's better. You were the bomb in Thunderballs, Yo! <NT> Happy New

Tao's cool. <NT> Will_Carry New

I'm not sure why, but I just bought this book off of Amazon wildwildwes New

Let me know if there's a centerfold! <NT> Turtle81 New

Thanks wildwildwes taoberman3 New

see, tao, that's your problem... blokhead New

 

Anyone out there paddling a Nemesis and who can compare it to the Flirt TheBroncoKid New

Anytime I paddle my Nemesis, it gets this real evil look about it... RUwet New

RU - retarded?? rodeoroll New

 

Any last advice before I purchase a creek boat? wncboater New

Advice?  Yeah.  Prepare for the addiction! <NT> hardboater New

Unless he gets a facefull of rock....then prepare for the dentist. <NT> AaronK New

If you can still demo them Stifler New

Both art state of the art creek boats. Will_Carry New

check the outfitting you'll buy the Nomad <NT> citicokid New

Why? I think the jackson outfitting is much more comfortable than the Nomad. <NT> Carnage_Asada New

 

chattooga draft ea Sutton New

sorry, links included to usfs decision... Sutton New

that's awesome! decker New

With access from Dec 1st to March 1st and no boating below Burrell's Ford... TheCube New

no kidding <NT> decker New

I wonder if it'll be first come first serve or if a lottery system be put in place <NT> TheBroncoKid New

anyone have some cheese... and a kleenex? decker New

That means an average of 288 boaters per year,  Is my math correct? <NT> Will_Carry New

waitaminute... decker New

Your math is right if you use the average days and maximum groups and paddlers per group... parknsurf New

sounds like dancytron New

That's what it looks like to me too.  Anybody have a link to the original alternatives summary? <NT> parknsurf New

Link to orginal inside mudpuppy New

How do they decide which groups get to go?... bald1 New

what if it's running above 450cfs from April-Nov? decker New

then bring your fly rod and leave the boat at home .... bastards! <NT> love2kayak New

If it's self-registration, how do I know if I'm in group 4 or 5? <NT> curtis_elwood New

You dont.  They'll probably use that on the very first runnable day to say that we cant obey the rules, so.... hardboater New

Shhhhhh!  Don't give them any ideas. <NT> curtis_elwood New

Guess that means they'll need a new gauge, huh? selmaraid New

Which will probablky take exactly 83 years and 113 days to install. <NT> hardboater New

after sitting on their hands so long abbeysway New

My thoughts exactly. <NT> cravincreeks New

Here is a link to some of the original alternative information if anybody is interested... parknsurf New

Grow a set and when it rains run it, if you are dumb enought to get caught do the time or fine. What a bunch of pussies. Louie New