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question Anyone else having problems with NRS Customer Service? New

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Date: May 12 2008, 23:26 GMT
From: rlhartman

For the record: I've always had bulletproof customer service from NRS. Simply never a problem, period. But today I received the following from a neighbor and close kayaking buddy:

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Has anyone else had problems with NRS standing behind their products?  I was down in Moscow a couple weeks ago at the NRS store just before a three day self supported kayak trip.  I had planned on buying a new Werner paddle, spray skirt, and water boots.  In addition, I wanted NRS to replace an “extreme drysuit” I had purchased six years ago.  When I bought the “extreme” drysuit the advertisement said it had a lifetime guarantee.
  
The drysuit leaks like a sieve, and has for the last three years.  I have replaced the usual wear items like the socks, and neck gasket at the Lochsa Connection.  NRS had previously repaired it by putting glue on it, a two week process.  There are no visible tears in the suit.
  
When I saw the words “lifetime guarantee in the advertisement for the drysuit, I assumed it was for my life and I’m still alive.  NRS informed me it was for the “life of the garment”, what is that?  He said I had got a lot of use from the dry suit, and NRS was not going to replace it or consider a store credit.
  
Anyway NRS lost a customer for life.  I have heard stories of Kokatat actually honoring their guarantees.  My plan is to become an outdoorplay.com customer.  

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To be fair, I haven't seen the drysuit. However, this is a pretty stand-up guy so I seriously doubt he's trying to cheat NRS in some way. Anyone aware of any formal changes in NRS policies?
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note Lifetime warranties protects from manufacturing defects.  Normal wear and tear are not usually covered..... RUwet New
note Still.... HillHarman New
gack I wouldn't have the nerve to even ask them to replace LBA7895 New
disagree maybe you should get some nerve! gscottmil1 New
note Read-on oh wise one-  you'll find that not every tiny company plays your game. -D New
th_up Yea...... 6 years old?  Seems like something that should have been done in the 1st year or so selmaraid New
note and yet when I walk into Sears with a broken 10 y.o  wrench , they hand me a new one kindyakker New
disagree If you can't tell between a chunk of metal and some cloth, then you don't have a clue, huh? <NT> RUwet New
note A Lifetime Warranty is a Lifetime Warranty and NRS shouldn't have offered it if they' refuse to honor it TheBroncoKid New
th_up ding ding ding , we have a winner <NT> kindyakker New
disagree After 6 years, buy a new suit.  I may be jaded cuz' I work in a retail setting, but a full replacement, inmyopinion, is RUwet New
note and comparing tools to clothes,  really?  don't see how the two can't even be compared? <NT> RUwet New
note you're teh only one comparing tools and clothes, while they're simply comparing "lifetime" warranties TheBroncoKid New
feedback they are compared as both having a "Lifetime Warranty"... tiskemanis New
note I hear ya, but at what point is the lifetime of a garmet, specifically a drysuit, determined to be over? TheBroncoKid New
note Basic concepts of drysuit construction jkodadek New
feedback Hartman's Rule #1: "They make expensive equipment for a reason. Buy it." rlhartman New
th_up say what you mean, and mean what you say, have you read LiquidLogic's warranty card??? tiskemanis New
note He should have called ahead and he should have done it about 3 years ago donutboy New
note Tell your friend he is delusional jkodadek New
note delusional is a company offering a Lifetime Warranty on a high wear item kindyakker New
note Maybe you should READ their warranty jkodadek New
th_up True TheBroncoKid New
smile but then again.... TheBroncoKid New
note No. You fail. jkodadek New
doh How is a legitimate discussion about equipment inappropriate?!? rlhartman New
smile Rule #1 of BT Fight Club is .... TheBroncoKid New
note Because your friend is a jerk jkodadek New
th_up <No Subject> <NT> RUwet New
idea age shouldn't dictate useable life, condition should, but you people are stuck on the number 6 and ..... TheBroncoKid New
note Dude, it was a drysuit on COATED fabric jkodadek New
smile slap on some Thompson's Waterseal TheBroncoKid New
disagree buy you aren't calling werner to get a new paddle, are you? RUwet New
smile that's because it's still in good condition, plus Werner doesn't have a warranty for the lifetime of it's paddles TheBroncoKid New
feedback But this is a discussion. You want to shoot the messenger because you don't like the message? <NT> rlhartman New
feedback That's not what is currently listed on the website BMan1 New
smile check out this awesome 10 year warranty TheBroncoKid New
feedback Here is the ULTIMATE WARRANTY... rlhartman New
th_up <NT> tiskemanis New
note Sounds good on paper, But... BMan1 New
th_up All warranties are analyzed based on their projected cost... rlhartman New
note actually they patch a lot more than a few boats a year TheBroncoKid New
gack seems as ... Phatdawg New
smile suit nazi <NT> TheBroncoKid New
feedback NRS Customer Service raft2live New
feedback I've already given him the name of one personal acquaintance there. I'll pass along yours as well. Thanks! rlhartman New
note your friend is asking a but much ScottBarnes New
smile poor planning on your behalf does not constitute and emergency on our belhalf decker New
note this is horrible post pyranhajim New
note lifetime warranties generally mean the lifetime of the product.... jimmy New
idea Ok, so that would mean that when you blow a gasket, that suit has lost it's life TheBroncoKid New
note Nobody warranties gaskets. Elvez New
note I know,and my point was less about gaskets per se and more about drysuits TheBroncoKid New
feedback NRS has always been great for me.. crankee New
feedback NRS has ALWAYS been outstanding in my experience <NT> FuzzyBunny New
note MOST "Lifetime Warranties" are a crock of shit Yall_Watch_This New
idea Kokatat backs thier stuff for a lifetime of the user, NRS lifetime of the garment. duckypaddler New
feedback I really like NRS gear, but have heard multiple issues with their dry suits, even the new ones leak. boofguru New
warning NRS Gear niceun New
note Funny you should mention the Watershed bag... Elvez New
note Actually, I should rephrase... Elvez New
note Tell him to buy IR and nothing else...even if it's subpar, they back it up and then some. <NT> Yall_Watch_This New
note NRS is Obviously Lower Quality Whitewater-Lifer New
note Plenty of blame to go round here. . . K1er New
note Want a real lifetime warranty abbeysway New
note He seriously wants them to give him a new drysuit after he's used it for 6 years? GRITS New
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