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Re: note eVent vs. Gore-Tex. . .feedback wanted jaleel_da_sheik New
Re: note They're both a waste of money. DavidWeber New
Re: note disagree, at least for the SE DangerJudy New
Date: Jun 03 2008, 16:27 GMT
From: KenDriscoll

The main reason coated fabrics feel wet and clammy is because the moisture has no place to go and condenses inside the garment and is trapped in, making you wet inside. And as the cools, well you get cold.

David is right in saying breathable fabrics do not work as well in kayaking as the would in biking, skiing, running etc. The fabrics work by transfering the moisture through the membrane (or membranes) to the fabric and then that is transported to the environment through evaporation. But in kayaking we are soaked most of the time, and the outside fabric becomes saturated, at that point we can not generate enough pressure to overcome this, and the fabric stops breathing.

This will feel much more comfortable to the user because the membrane (or membranes) can collect a large amount of moisture, keeping it from condensing inside the garment, and keeping you dry, and warm. The most important thing to keeping your self warm and toasty in a breathable fabric is to make sure your DWR treatment is effectively beading the water off the top, allowing moisture to be transported to the outside fabric.

As for which is better, EVENT of Gortex, well thats a tough call. I know Gortex does not provide lab results to the public, and I have never looked up EVENT to see what it tests at.

The one company in the US that produces Gortex tops is Kokatat, and regardless of which fabric is more breathable they make a immaculate product and will stand behind it 100%.

Anyways I hope this helps a bit.

Ken
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note Which is what I *would* have said had I the time to articulate it properly. DavidWeber New
note but you said they were a waste of money... HillHarman New
note Portaging I'll give you... DavidWeber New
note Have you ever used a goretex drysuit/drytop? HillHarman New
note The big question...has he ever used a goretex dry* on a big mission where there is lots of scouting, safety, and portage jkodadek New
smile Well, your little dig aside there... DavidWeber New
note research in a lab means nothing HillHarman New
note Well, first of all.... DavidWeber New
note You still aren't answering the question... HillHarman New
smile Well then don't take my word for it... DavidWeber New
note Find an experiment where they've faithfully replicated a kayaking environment HillHarman New
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