I used to hang out there alot. I am not the boater I used to be and I had a hard time getting thrashed in that hole, and it is a good hole to get thrashed in. I remember getting so tired that I could not hit my roll that well and almost got washed into humongous a couple of times. I got used to the rock, but I saw a lot of people get hurt. mainly ankles and such. I guesss all in all, you have to be a pretty good boater, know where the rock is, and be in good physical condition to enjoy that hole. I also think the hole might have changed slightly for the worse.