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Anyone have the inside track on whether RF will hold for the weekend? fishdoc New

 

Best of AWC Awards, Tuesday Dec 2nd --RSVP! splinter1 New

 

New Mohawk Outfitting 2opnboat New

 

Chattanooga vs. Megarocker. Which would go better with a full face helmet? <NT> Will_Carry New

only at the Charlotte Whitewater Park if you're in a C1 <NT> mtnsport New

Interesting., Dave_ New

 

can someone tell me how to upload pics on AW? or am i just stupid? i have an account and everything <NT> clay54 New

Hmmm.... Gorman New

 

Was your crew (all in Jackson's) low water lapping the Tellico last Sat. 11-15-08?...if so I have pics... HabitatMapper New

 

Kayaking toff the ski jumps at the Olympic Sports Park in Park City Squints New

 

The Gnar Gnar photos from this year in WV swappe332 New

Yeah Johnny!   Zoolander New

If i could find work, i'd like to come out... swappe332 New

 

Kayaking near LA jhaddock New

Boof.com erikclarsen New

 

Need Advice! mikesong New

It's possible.   HabitatMapper New

 

Surf New Jersey (New video) RodeoClown New

Ah the memories... Zeppelinpilot New

It's a lot better than it used to be RodeoClown New

I have been since V2.0 has been around. I was there at 12K. It is awesome! Zeppelinpilot New

Seeing the word Scudders and premier in the same sentence... BMan1 New

 

Just curious.  Of those that bash the whitewater park.  How many cbk1 New

I think the better comparison is who would pay to go hiking Julio New

ever hear of Grandfather Mountain? backbonz New

or entrance fees to state and national parks? <NT> southeastcreekin New

Or the Nantahala? <NT> backbonz New

So, if it was easier they would opt to not go to the resort.  But, cbk1 New

Dude, you've confused yourself, take a deep breath and try again. <NT> zk1 New

yawn. <NT> jkodadek New

bad comparison whitewater parks are to whitewater what ski dubai is to skiing. southeastcreekin New

ski-asheville knuckles New

the entire park arguement is stupid and narrow minded ScottBarnes New

you say "cboaters are just tripping themselves up by kneeling and using one stupid blade" like they're not? <NT> mtnsport New

My point is. cbk1 New

Heres my take on it...kinda like a kayak and open boat issues that goes on. snacker55 New

drawing with such broad strokes is stupid and narrow-minded... cdd New

excellent ScottBarnes New

You stole my thunder dude Riv New

A natural river is far better than any artificial feature, but theres no reason they can't co-exist peacefully KELLMAN New

Bad comparison, two wrongs don't make a right! <NT> Pinecricker New

But, three rights make a left... Dan New

Jackson, squaw, Whistler, Telluride...  Green, Yuba, Feather, Ark, Cherry <NT> WookieBreath New

But one of those ski areas does not belong with the others jkodadek New

 

Update on Stonycreek releases (inside) and don't forget about Ohiopyle Falls Meeting rloughne New

Thanks  for up & will U B @ 7S this weekend?  Owe you an adult beverage!  :-)   <NT> PAC New

indeed. see you at springs <NT> rloughne New

 

Run afoul of the paddling lobby and look what happens to ya ReformSchooler New

Good ridens to Hayes/Bamford and their ilk. Skully New

Bamford called kayakers drunken bums ScottBarnes New

 

What do you think.... fahimaz7 New

that is pretty gay <NT> Southside New

gayer than kuthe's naked yakkin' pic. <NT> jonas_24112 New

WTF - Who would really do this doyou-k1 New

GAY! <NT> Unabonger New

Supergay! <NT> hardboater New

I'm not sayin it looks gay ditchbitch New

But not quite as gay as this...... hardboater New

WTF is Tao doing??? Laura New

Yeah...got the message this morning.  Sent him my contact info.  How have you been.  Been WAY too long! <NT> hardboater New

Laura, he's waiting for you.... crunchy New

agreed......Gold Medal for gay.....all time gay champ... <NT> Southside New

Ding Ding - We have a winner!!  Uber Gay!  That's just, I mean WTF!! Unabonger New

Gay, but Tao is still a bad-ass. <NT> K-Vez New

the staged windblown scene is gayer than that prosthetic looking bulge BLUEEZ New

and yeah, I looked   : )     <NT> BLUEEZ New

Hell yeah!! <NT> Turtle81 New

prosthetic looking bulge crunchy New

I was trolling for  "this is a tao berman post"   that's the real stuff baby!, but no. didn't get it.  :) BLUEEZ New

As team manager at the time jiggydawg New

Nanty Cascades? Skully New

And Skully definitely knows his gay!!! Sweet_Pete New

no worries. Skully New

sent you a message <NT> Sweet_Pete New

<No Subject> nfbk New

Why are all you dumb meatheads shouting "gay!"?? jkodadek New

Scott, you are always good for bringing out the best in this forum... pretty funny <NT> ugadelta98 New

.... DDPMikeCO New

Not that theirs anything wrong with that! scottp47 New

 

Mad River Outrage GreenNarrows New

try cboats.net broam New

Not many with I.Q. out there ckingoc1 New

I'd think very carefully about the IQ system, because I see little or no advantage to having it ezwater New

Beware of buying a new one cheoahman New

Here's Outrage, not IQ though cheoahman New

 

Huge sale on gear!!! RainRider New

Impossible. If that is really the sale, then they are stupid. donutboy New

sorry. "stupid" was harsh- replace with insanium in the cranium <NT> donutboy New

Not all that crazy.... crankee New

plus granolapaddler New

Aren't you the same person who was dogging the shit out of Appomattox on here 2 weeks ago for underselling everybody? ugadelta98 New

Maybe the gift cards are only good to use one per purchase.  That cbk1 New

Is it the economy ? wvrivers New

 

Caliproduct Updates caliproduct.com New

 

manakazo first descent triberiders New

that looks sweet, i want to go there. <NT> alexkayaks23 New

I'd think that anyone who looks at this will be jealous yaknman New

What is going on here? arrmike New

wow tucker_deloach New

dats da stout killah!! <NT> KELLMAN New

The photo is deceiving... mrkayakman04 New

Cool pictures but the article is Nutz! GizmoTN New

cool photos-bad watermark atomizer New

 

Anyone wanna creek the Upper G this weekend? hardboater New

You must really be wanting to put that new cold weather gear to the test. High Sat. is only supposed to hit 34 degrees. <NT> Ed_E.Hopper New

<NT> hardboater New

i might be desparate enought to go. komushio New

<No Subject> nfbk New

We will definitly be out there Sat and Sun since nothing else is running... basebaby New

Upper gauley? <NT> basebaby New

There is 13 ft to go until winter pool.  I say 12:00 at DAM. komushio New

 

Boaters in Knox- there is a killer band playing at Wild Wings Dec.6..... ocoeerat21 New

 

Curious about some BT stats.  I'm 36 and have been paddling for about 12 years.  You? <NT> hardboater New

66 and paddling for about 20 years <NT> unclefuzzy New

66 in December, paddling for 35 years. <NT> ezwater New

21 y/o SWF lf SWM to paddle class 5 350days/year. fahimaz7 New

Let's see...29 years old, I'm 6ft, red hair, hazel eyes, kayaked for 8year, enjoy snowboarding and walks in the park... <NT> slimerboy New

You goob! <NT> hardboater New

<No Subject> <NT> slimerboy New

Missed you last Sunday.  South Fork as a nice creeky 850. <NT> hardboater New

I wanted to paddle at BSF but... slimerboy New

40 years old, kayaked 4.5 years, hung like a stallion <NT> DonVitoCorleone New

42 years old , boating over 20 something years and hung like a fruit bat <NT> ditchbitch New

Oh lord!  Im never posting here agin!  EVER! <NT> hardboater New

52. Paddling whitewater since 19 and 77. <NT> Will_Carry New

Oh yeah...hung like a Vienna Sausage. <NT> Will_Carry New

31 years old, paddling for 15 years, kayaking for 7. <NT> arrmike New

48, kayaking for 8 years, You'll have to ask my wife the rest! <NT> r.d.mcdaniel New

28 from Idaho, This will be my 3rd season yaking <NT> Aroberts New

50, paddling 30 years, still waiting for my break-through year! <NT> energywonk New

I'm 35, paddling for 19 years, and hung like Lion <NT> Julio New

38, I have been kayaking for 17 years. <NT> acecoach New

Beckley, WV. 21 years old.  I've been kayaking for 3 seasons and the first wave I surfed was Nirvana on Upper New. <NT> mickeyg New

47 paddling 36 years. Danm curse of the Irish <NT> sj New

24 and just hit a decade of paddling, the last 6 years seriously. <NT> tybo99 New

46 years old, paddling 11 years <NT> swampboy62 New

45, been paddling for 17 years. Bradley New

I'm 36 and I've been kayaing for 14 years. <NT> dwilli New

43 paddling 29 years. <NT> shanebenedict New

55-27 <NT> smoot New

56, openboat for 32 years abbeysway New

52, paddling 39 years, seriously for 22 of them <NT> ReformSchooler New

First canoe trip on Little River of TN. in 1966. Been wet the whole 42 yrs wh2ofox New

40/30 <NT> crankee New

21 and paddling whitewater for 1 year <NT> sunchopper New

57/40 <NT> ckirby New

both me and my wife are 44 - paddling class 3-4 together for 15 years <NT> doyou-k1 New

38 & whitewater paddling for the last 9 years <NT> mtnsport New

23 and been paddling for 17 years and kayaking for 14. paddler511 New

28 - started paddled 6 years ago...started guiding and rowing 3...or is it 4? the summers are a blur. <NT> TennJon New

39, paddling for 12 years. <NT> Jas. New

54, paddling for 18 yrs.  Team Geez member.  No blog. <NT> FluidDruid New

35 and paddling 7 years. <NT> cR@ViN_W@VeS New

38 ~  28 <NT> Shrimpboat New

27 and paddling 9 years BLUEEZ New

Oh come on, you feel older than that DonVitoCorleone New

I'll have to be more careful who I let squeeze me, I feel 27 to me  ;) <NT> BLUEEZ New

38, 8 <NT> paddlingphool New

40- kayaking/OC-1 15 years <NT> cport New

38yrs  started in 1982 <NT> scottp47 New

40, rafting 15 years <NT> GQ New

51 paddling for 30 years /just as stoked as the old days in Richmond <NT> zboat New

37/18, but I'm pretty sure... Pinecricker New

Im 15 and ive been paddling for 5 years <NT> tucker_deloach New

19 or 20 years <NT> wvrivers New

59, paddling for 11 years <NT> SYOTR New

I'm 35, kayaking 10 year, last 5 seriously <NT> magrell New

50...13 years paddling <NT> russellfork New

28 paddling 16 years <NT> cwilsonbell New

 

Dry Top Fitting WVkayaker New

dry top fit teepee New

<No Subject> Dr.Beer New

Dry Top Fitting for Winter LittleRiverCyd New

 

Stohlquist Caveman Ergo River Boot Feedback? Wondering about ordering a pair. Any users? <NT> nrjoel New

No direct experience but looks good and good price at Campmor DrSurf New

caveman kcin New

Caveman slo2rol New

 

trade for boat.... htk911 New

Creek Boat Will_Dowling New

well htk911 New

 

Futaleafu questions... steff New

ideas bankfull1 New

the futa... matias New

<No Subject> newkid New

Futa was one of the best kayaking experiences of my life. clemsonboater New

Clemsonboater... WildwaterSteve New

Thanks guys steff New

 

How does the USNWC  compare to the Nantahala? <NT> canoe90 New

wtf kind of question is that? could you be less specific? <NT> oopsiflipped New

he could have asked - How does the ditch in charlotte compare to ? donutboy New

wtf kind of response was that? could you be more of a jerk? Cree1976 New

a few differences.. tiskemanis New

My bad, I'm going to Charlotte and thinking bout takin the kayak. I should have asked how does the difficulty of the ... canoe90 New

<No Subject> edw New

I think this might help... leno New

The USNWC has little or no risk for foot entrapment.  The Nantahala has much cleaner water.  And on. <NT> rtoodit New

Don't forget that the Nantahala has a float-through pizza joint! <NT> Pinecricker New

if it were a float-through joint I'd paddle there much more often <NT> mtnsport New

feedback rellufs New

The nanty vs USNWC laddie New

Well said Laddie!  You hace just described the Zen of paddling. Will_Carry New

USNWC is great!!!!!! megoindisco New

WTF is wrong with you ass wipes? cheapwhiskey New

You should go there, it will make you a much better boater. dwilli New

Reality BlackMountain New

Alternate reality... swampboy62 New

I learned to paddle at the USNWC cbkoontz New

yeah, what he said spanky2116 New

Wait, it is a bad place to learn because there are no consequences? Flanman2 New

usnwc tucker_deloach New

usnwc tucker_deloach New

A good place to progress past the Nanty. cbk1 New

go have fun that's what it's all about. FlailingProbe New

But it's not a "pure outdoor experience" unless you paddle the cbk1 New

Thanks!  I haven't laughed that hard in awhile.... leno New

My first trip was two weeks ago cgrinds New

bringyour boat if you're going to Charlotte ScottBarnes New

Hell if its a hassle to bring your boat kayaker0987 New

Call first ! ! ! Praise_Earl New

 

Jefe differences between generations? wavmax New

This came up the other day and here's a link to the thread... farmschooler New

Thanks for the link but am still wondering about jefe generation differences n/t <NT> wavmax New

The only difference is outfitting (old vs. Bad-ass).  The hulls are identical tcookson New

I paddle a standard Jefe at 195lbs <NT> mudpuppy New

you are on the high end for the standard and the low end for the grande FlailingProbe New

 

New River Gorge, gauge question dwilli New

USGS here..... mudpuppy New

Hmmmm (scratching his head)...That graph shows 2.58 dwilli New

More information mudpuppy New

Easy, he's Dan's father ReformSchooler New

Dan's Dad (aka UncleFuzzy, Chuck Brabec) unclefuzzy New

<No Subject> <NT> mudpuppy New

Rough estimate hydraulic New

I've always used a calculation that someone taught me years ago... GQ New

cfs is also on the rock unclefuzzy New

That formula still works. <NT> donutboy New

Boatingbeta has both the USGS flow at Thurmond in cfs and an estimate of the height at Fayette Station ReformSchooler New

Thanks. That was some good info. <NT> dwilli New

 

sizes of IR skirts seth65 New

IR sizing rloughne New

 

Striding?? GGreenboater New

well... jims New

this is the best set-up... cdd New

Hey Grant go2aintree New

 

Mango Jefe? mikesong New

Cool color, a little more yellow in it than the old orange. <NT> crankee New

 

Linville Gorge Break-ins!!! sinotam New

Word.., Hate to here. Thanks for the heads up <NT> Dave_ New

Sorry to hear that, FluidDruid New

Thwarting Breakins? BlazeOn New

SET-UP !  then- when captuerd, = 1'st-descent @ linville falls ! (I'll donate-boat!) <NT> carnage-boater New

contact Burke County Sheriffs wilsonswimteam New

I did.... sinotam New

Have a bit of comfort knowing that what goes around comes around. They're probably suffering from... ptrushto New

There probably isn't a parking place up there that doesn't have some window glass on the ground there... rtoodit New

Coulda been worse too, remember a few years ago when the crack head rtoodit New

 

Chattanooga versus Knoxville jimmoon New

one's closer to Louie... <NT> Philcanoe New

is that a + or a - ? <NT> mtnsport New

Chattanooga has alot more close to the city, but knoxville can hit anything/everything in the southeast in 2.5 hours. granolapaddler New

How does Asheville compare to Chatt and Knox? <NT> jimmoon New

Asheville better for guarenteed creeking, chattanooga better for guarenteed playboating, Knoxville centrally located. <NT> granolapaddler New

As a knoxvillian who has recently moved to Chatty and who went to school in Sewanee.. HortonVM New

Knoxville overall much better bankfull1 New

Um, tomato/tomahto.... crankee New

Sorry, OT from original post.. crankee New

I agree bankfull1 New

Knoxville is a way cooler town than Chatty <NT> HortonVM New

and if you hunt any, your safety jacket does double duty as team colors come Saturday <NT> mtnsport New

Chatt is an outdoor friendly city, great downtown events, minor league baseball.. ocoeerat21 New

I think that certain Knoxville boaters have little man syndrome. just sayin.... <NT> waterfrk09 New

Knoxville's in the middle of everything...period. <NT> slimerboy New

just get a map and mark all the giant porno and fireworks outlets within an hour of knoxville on it oopsiflipped New

and it was the host of the most excellent '82 World's Fair mtnsport New

Chattanooga has the more waterfalls in proximity... many waiting to be 1st D'ed. <NT> paddler511 New

which town has best music scene for working musicians? riverbone New

Chatt Town TNPADDLER22 New

But Rodeo is dead! <NT> slimerboy New

Rock Island was his main reason bankfull1 New

Knoxville.   BLUEEZ New

Chatty sucks nothing to see here ...move along ...head North... <NT> ditchbitch New

I don't know why people make such a fuss over Asheville.  Knoxville wins hands down. <NT> mtnsport New

Your right... crankee New

Yep.. Milhouse New

You just confirmed Knoxville is better. slimerboy New

Yeah you are probably right.... Milhouse New

We'll have in Mexico...BTW, Jocassee is not to far from Knoxville either:) <NT> slimerboy New

just wait untill the drought ends bankfull1 New

You said it....."just wait until the drought ends" Milhouse New

regardless of location, all fingers are crossed bankfull1 New

Chattanooga is too rain dependant ralf New

And there are larger rivers near Knoxville that run almost all the time. slimerboy New

how is the economy in Knoxville I bet it is better than Asheville's cwilsonbell New

 

It's a new dawn for the boatingbeta Green page . . . ReformSchooler New

A HUGE Thanks for all you do! yespe1 New

Chris...as usual you are the man!...and thanks for giving to the boating community! <NT> ditchbitch New

Thanks Chris. <NT> crankee New

<No Subject> <NT> FluidDruid New