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combined japan and china account for over 50% of treasury notes used to fund this debacle. 600b to 1 T $ is the number that I last heard. The dollar is weak as can be, and we don't go into Afghan to get the SOB that is responsible for most of our fears.
AQ wasn't there till we got there, we aren't going to be able to hand the shit-hole Iraq over for 10 or so years because they can't nut up and take it. So we keep on going and going and going. All the mean while our own fuel prices sore, our food prices are rising, and the job market is sucking ass. So what you are saying is that we should keep on down this path?
Remember when america was the leader in TECH, Health Care, Transportation, Quality, and Innovation? It't time that we all of that back and then some. And if you believe that McSame is the answer then I would like to hear how. All that is is 8 years of Iraq with a greater chance of Iran. WOW that is something I want to hand to my son. Hey Noah, here is a big ol mess that we created because we were just to scared to change.
What do we get if we so call "win" ? Do you believe that there is a "Win or Lose" in this? I don't. I think it is just one big Cluster F that we created and must admit to. We give a time line, they take it, we go to afghan and kill the SOB's that want to kill us.
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and if we stay we get? New 
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