I didn't have any swims but when we arrived at the rapid called 20 stitches we got out to scout it..I didn't want to get back in my boat but there was no way out. I saw a train far way and about 200 ft up and wanted to catch it. I finished the run without swimming and wanted to kiss the ground when we reached the take out. Looking back on it I am thankful I did it. I've been back every october since then.