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warning You can call bullshit all you want, that doesn't make you right. Exactly because there are rooftops... New

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Re: note SNOWWRESTLER.  tell me about Palau <NT> rroberts New
Re: note This should get the cavers' attention Stifler New
Re: note Unflattering info about Col. Chesty Puller in there too. Stifler New
Re: note Yes.  Puller was very good at the battalion level, but not at the division level... rroberts New
Re: note "Goodbye Darkness" is good too.  by Manchester.  However, Puller's personal courage was unquestioned... rroberts New
Re: sad It's a pity that his skill at small scale warfare seems to have disappeared from the normal training of modern troops. Wilko New
Re: note The Corps still emphasises small unit tactics, but there are only 3 divisions. <NT> rroberts New
Re: note That's what they might say, but in reality there isn't much emphasis on small unit tactics. Wilko New
Re: note No.  You are incorrect.  The Corps basic unit is the fireteam.  4 or 5 guys.  That's the building brick... rroberts New
Re: sad And they were getting very heavy casualties in Falluja, simply because they failed to use those fireteams effectively. Wilko New
Re: note Bullshit!  it's an urban environment.  how the hell are you going to avoid moving through areas with rooftops... rroberts New
Date: Jul 25 2008, 14:37 GMT
From: Wilko

...doesn't mean that the doctrine of assaulting through the front door at the bottom floor is the best one.

I think the big problem here is that you have been trained to use the frontal assault and haven't stopped to think about what way of clearing and taking a building could be more effective and cause less casualties.

That low remark about me screaming bloodthirsty Americans as well as the one about turning to the Germans for aid has no relevance here whatsoever, unless you're aiming at turning a decent discussion about effective tactics which are used by both *my* country's military as well as your country's troops into a name calling match. If that's the case, I'll gladly leave you to have the last word. If you do care about discussing what can be done so that both our armies bring home less body bags in current and future conflicts, I suggest that you'll stop making nonsensical remarks like that and stick to valid and relevant arguments.

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note OK.  Lots of buildings.  do you leap from roof top to roof top?  helio assault?... rroberts New
note The problem is that they are not going through each house.  And there again, if they did... rroberts New
warning Rick, cut that out! Wilko New
note ain't buying it... rroberts New
feedback That's the umptieth time you've talked about "Dresdin". What on earth is Dresdin? Please fille me in... Wilko New
note Dresden, Germany, was firebombed by the Allies in World War II resulting in large numbers of civilian casualties Gordo New
feedback Yeah, I thought that he might have meant that, but there was no battle, no tactics, just bombing of civilians. Wilko New
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