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As for the lessons learned, the point I was making at the beginning was that the modern western armies have not learned the lessons from the past and that the western armies lack those advanced small unit tactics.
I am not talking about the units during world war 2, some of which got very good at being better at small scale tactics than their opponent, such as the chindits, Merrill's Marauders, SAS etc. If you had not been outraged at your beloved Marines being part of my point making, you might have noticed that the world war two lessons learned by some units fighting the Japanese was not the point I was making. They had some experiences with the Japanese being tactically better trained, better at night fighting and infiltrating and using more refined small unit tactics than most western units at that time. That is still the case with western units, and that was the point I was making. A couple of smart allied commanders learning from that and using similar tactics doesn't change the fact that most western units had not that skill nor small scale tactical training, and used more fire power than their opponent in most situations to beat the enemy. In most cases that worked brilliantly, back then. Nowadays, that's no longer the case, despite considerably more firepower at the hands of most western battlefield units. The opponent has learned how to deal with fire power by using better tactics, and it's about time our western troops learned to deal with that, otherwise we'll win many more senseless battles and lose many more wars. *That*'s the issue here.
Nothing you have said so far has proven the opposite to me.
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Yeah, of course, Rick, by repeating that it was so certainly makes it true. New 
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