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Forum: LiquidLounge
Date: Nov 17 2005, 22:06 GMT
From: paramita

I would like to share my opinion.
I will start by saying everything we do is selfish and I will follow up by saying having children is twice as selfish.
Think about the billion of kids who could be adopted by people who want kids and dont adopt because they selfishly want kids with their blood in their children.  
Think about urban sprawl and how the growing population creates the need to chop down more trees, dig up more mountains, and make room for more walmarts.
If every couple had no more than two kids and never split up and never remarried and never had more kids maybe urban sprawl would not happen.
Think about how many people have stayed in relationships because "opps someone got pregnant".
The majority of pregnancies I have witnessed in the last 10 years have been accidents and as a result some couple ended up getting married. I have seen two that were planned and I do know of two married friends trying to conceive but the 18 other couples I am close with fell under the first catagory and I can almost gaurantee there marriages would not have happened had there not been kids and some of them have already fallen apart.
Both my brother and sister were married (not to each other) as a result of unplanned pregnancies.
And my brothers marriage is already ended, but his ex-wfie got pregnant by someone else and then remarried.
I know many people who have kids so that someone will take care of them when they get older. My mom is a great example of this. I have been living on my own since I was fourteen and there has not been one year that my mom has not asked for money.
Alot of people have kids in an attempt to fill "the void" inside themselves.
I visit my family because they always go on about how they miss me and how much they want to see me and how they have KIDS so its much harder for them and their kids are growing and they want me to see them before they are all grown up. So I have to miss work (which cost money) and pay(more money) to fly to see them.  
I just have yet to figure how exactly is a person being more selfish by not having kids.

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idea Sounds like your argument is with unmarried people's promiscuity, not the kids they produce <NT> rlhartman New
note The kids... paramita New
feedback In this instance, you can't get "trapped" unless you're a willing participant... rlhartman New
note Agree 100%... paramita New
feedback OK, but now we've eliminated 90% of the problem (18 out of your 20) so the impact isn't nearly as great rlhartman New
note Having kids is not a problem... paramita New
th_up On that, we agree 100% rlhartman New
note It was easy for me, I just "coached" and took pictures. My wife complained a lot.   <NT> ezwater New
th_up Agree 100% on the adoption part. cbk1 New
disagree "Everything we do is selfish"   Urban sprawl is caused by too many kids??? TheBadPennies New
note It would be selfish for me not to have kid because, BoatCaptain New
th_up Not all of us are the peak though :^)... paramita New
disagree I think you got it all wrong gargoyle New
feedback No, don't believe that she got it all wrong elb New
smile That would be me. I'm a godmother! All the benefits and none of the cons. <NT> GRITS New
note ..... paramita New
smile I just didn't want you thinking you were "ordinary" <NT> gargoyle New
th_up paramita is one of the most extraordinary people I know. <NT> GRITS New
doh <the sound of a low long disbelieving whistle> possum New
th_up The world's population is now declining.  Europe is losing huge population numbers in next 30 years <NT> TheBadPennies New
note especially after china made laws about one baby households <NT> paramita New
note No, it's not. Not even the lowest UN estimates of world population buynoski New
note I do know  several adoptive familys... paramita New
th_up and all this i do agree with. possum New
note No such thing as bastard kids, just bastards parents <NT> Louie New
note it is selfish, but life is selfish thumper New
note good morning kevin, paramita New
feedback People who are mildly depressed have a much more subjective view of reality... GRITS New
smile anyone who offers me pills can stick them you-know-where thumper New
idea Sometimes it's good to just be happy for a while. <NT> GRITS New
smile pretty funny in light of what i have been doing today thumper New
note Uneducated and poverty causes people to have more childeren. <NT> 33rr New
note i just woke up. sorry. <NT> 33rr New
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